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Rennie pilgrim in the studio

Post by DJ WATTSKI » Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:18 am

bought future music mag yesterday and on the dvd it has rennie in the studio showin how he go's about makin a track. well worth watchin.
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Post by Joebot » Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:26 am

will check that out today :D cheers
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Post by herozero » Tue Jan 24, 2006 11:00 am

good
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Post by dopamine » Tue Jan 24, 2006 11:04 am

Some good info there for sure. His studio certainly wasn't that tidy when I was in there though. ;)
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Post by Joebot » Tue Jan 24, 2006 11:06 am

hee hee


images of renie pilgrim in an apron and marigolds


franticly hovering his studio
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Post by dopamine » Tue Jan 24, 2006 11:16 am

:lol:
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Post by nectarios » Tue Jan 24, 2006 11:24 am

It'd be great to do the same with the Plumps!
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Post by shapshankly » Tue Jan 24, 2006 11:32 am

nec wrote:It'd be great to do the same with the Plumps!
Having said that though, the first one in this series that they ever did was in the studio with Ils and Wizard, and it has to be one of the most informative videos I've ever watched.

If you want to see a master of production going at it, watch Wizard. Genius.
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Post by alex_virr » Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:08 pm

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Post by dave pace » Tue Jan 24, 2006 4:41 pm

yeah, I've seen both. very useful
I'm abit surprised that nobody asks Rennie to turn the fans off though.
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Post by shapshankly » Tue Jan 24, 2006 5:13 pm

dave pace wrote:yeah, I've seen both. very useful
I'm abit surprised that nobody asks Rennie to turn the fans off though.
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Post by moderate » Tue Jan 24, 2006 5:18 pm

Was Rennie wearing his chunky Starkk watch? Was the time on it wrong by any chance? ;)
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Post by dave pace » Fri Jan 27, 2006 12:52 pm

shapshankly wrote:
dave pace wrote:yeah, I've seen both. very useful
I'm abit surprised that nobody asks Rennie to turn the fans off though.
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Post by ground_control » Fri Jan 27, 2006 9:44 pm

I found this video really informative and even inspiring, probably moreso than the ils & wizard one. Rennie's was better on workflow and just banging stuff out, ils and wizard's tips often seemed a little fiddly and convoluted.

Send it out to the desk, send it back into Logic, gate everything to get rid of the desk noise. Redo everything you've just done, then do it again. I mean you can't fault the results, but a lot of it seemed like creating more problems to fix, and a bit overcomplicated for non-professionals. There were even points where it didn't seem like wizard knew which parts he was working on, between the stems and the original audio tracks. :lol:

A lot of it may have had to do with the video starting mid-way through the process though, whereas Rennie just proved how easy it is to get a good groove working by just banging parts out and not fiddling too much. Actually got me moving on couple of things I'd started, but had stalled because of indecision.

Love wizard's crowd noise tip though, but then all my tunes have subliminal messages in them already. ;)

Both are great videos, though for different things, and I guess Rennie's addressed problems I was having at the time, in terms of composition and just getting it done. Ils and Wizard's is good for tightening and polishing an almost finished piece of work, though one might like to have just done it right the first time.

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Post by alex_virr » Sat Jan 28, 2006 4:26 am

ground_control wrote:I found this video really informative and even inspiring, probably moreso than the ils & wizard one. Rennie's was better on workflow and just banging stuff out, ils and wizard's tips often seemed a little fiddly and convoluted.

Send it out to the desk, send it back into Logic, gate everything to get rid of the desk noise. Redo everything you've just done, then do it again. I mean you can't fault the results, but a lot of it seemed like creating more problems to fix, and a bit overcomplicated for non-professionals. There were even points where it didn't seem like wizard knew which parts he was working on, between the stems and the original audio tracks. :lol:

A lot of it may have had to do with the video starting mid-way through the process though, whereas Rennie just proved how easy it is to get a good groove working by just banging parts out and not fiddling too much. Actually got me moving on couple of things I'd started, but had stalled because of indecision.

Love wizard's crowd noise tip though, but then all my tunes have subliminal messages in them already. ;)

Both are great videos, though for different things, and I guess Rennie's addressed problems I was having at the time, in terms of composition and just getting it done. Ils and Wizard's is good for tightening and polishing an almost finished piece of work, though one might like to have just done it right the first time.

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you know what I've said it before and I got stick for sounding sloppy but its all about banging things out - not being too analytical and keeping your own head nodding as much as possible. Long periods of fiddly programming and complex arrangement don't do your track any favours - its all about maintaining as much spontaneity and freshness about things as you can.

I'm not saying you shouldn't spend time on it - but spend too long and the vibe is gone and the moment passes. Its harder to keep up the momentum that way. anyways laters
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Post by Scott TeknicB » Sat Jan 28, 2006 8:10 am

would like to see this, can anyone put it online?
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Post by dopamine » Sat Jan 28, 2006 8:26 am

Scott, can you make that image like 5 times bigger? Thanks.
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Post by Scott TeknicB » Sat Jan 28, 2006 8:38 am

i got rid of it. for some reason the picture isnt that big but when i put it in the sig it makes it larger? weird
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Post by dopamine » Sat Jan 28, 2006 8:46 am

Did you have the image set to 100% when viewing in photoshop? ;)
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Post by ground_control » Sat Jan 28, 2006 11:46 am

youthful_implants wrote:
ground_control wrote:I found this video really informative and even inspiring, probably moreso than the ils & wizard one. Rennie's was better on workflow and just banging stuff out, ils and wizard's tips often seemed a little fiddly and convoluted.

Send it out to the desk, send it back into Logic, gate everything to get rid of the desk noise. Redo everything you've just done, then do it again. I mean you can't fault the results, but a lot of it seemed like creating more problems to fix, and a bit overcomplicated for non-professionals. There were even points where it didn't seem like wizard knew which parts he was working on, between the stems and the original audio tracks. :lol:

A lot of it may have had to do with the video starting mid-way through the process though, whereas Rennie just proved how easy it is to get a good groove working by just banging parts out and not fiddling too much. Actually got me moving on couple of things I'd started, but had stalled because of indecision.

Love wizard's crowd noise tip though, but then all my tunes have subliminal messages in them already. ;)

Both are great videos, though for different things, and I guess Rennie's addressed problems I was having at the time, in terms of composition and just getting it done. Ils and Wizard's is good for tightening and polishing an almost finished piece of work, though one might like to have just done it right the first time.

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you know what I've said it before and I got stick for sounding sloppy but its all about banging things out - not being too analytical and keeping your own head nodding as much as possible. Long periods of fiddly programming and complex arrangement don't do your track any favours - its all about maintaining as much spontaneity and freshness about things as you can.

I'm not saying you shouldn't spend time on it - but spend too long and the vibe is gone and the moment passes. Its harder to keep up the momentum that way. anyways laters
It's a tough line to draw, innit

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