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Far Too Loud Q&A session - open till sunday 07/12/08

Post by Walter Odington » Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:13 am

The tremendous "Far Too Loud" are here!


Ask them questions abut making music by posting in this thread. Once you have done that, go here http://www.fartooloud.com and rejoice.





Let the games begin...
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Post by _ _ _ » Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:47 am

sample cds = yay or nay??

sequencer of choice???

what compressors are you using?

favourite plug in?

whens the label launching?

what synths are you using?

maccy d's or burger king?
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Post by Zmitrek » Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:28 am

Have you any The affiliated project?

What kind of artist inspires you to make your tunes.
How much a lot of time has occupied a "Play It Loud" writing.

Your favourite labels?

Best producer 2008 on your opinion?
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Post by fartooloud » Mon Dec 01, 2008 8:49 am

Dom -
*!? wrote:sample cds = yay or nay??
Yes, we use sample CDs to source things like drums, hits, FX etc. Not big on using loops though, and those "construction kit" things just seem like cheating to me
*!? wrote:sequencer of choice???
Cubase SX4
*!? wrote:what compressors are you using?
It varies, but at the moment we're using the Sonalksis plugins a lot
*!? wrote:favourite plug in?
Impossible to name one!... We use the NI stuff a lot, especially Kontakt, Battery, Massive, FM8. FX wise, dB glitch is an awesome piece of software considering it's free, but it's kinda been done to death now. We've just got our hands on Effectrix which is an FX sequencer a bit like glitch but more powerful. Also the Ohm Force plugins are pretty cool.
*!? wrote:whens the label launching?
The first release will come in March, so expect a press release at the beginning of the year!
*!? wrote:what synths are you using?
Mostly software these days. Kontakt is our workhorse - often we'll put waveforms into that and use it like a synth. We use the other NI stuff quite a bit too and a smattering of other plugins like Z3ta and Predator. Having said that I've very recently got a Moog Voyager which is pretty damn awesome, so I'll be using that a lot!
*!? wrote:maccy d's or burger king?
Neither, I'll take a Kebab!
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Post by Ali Baba » Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:00 am

What FX do you use?

Do you Mix/Master your own stuff? Who does if not?

When writing where do you start? (ie beats,bass)

How long do you usually take to write a tune?

What hardware are you runnning? (ie pc spec, controllers etc)
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Post by Coyote » Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:12 am

morning,

Thanks for doing this. Big fan of your music by the way

Just a couple of questions,

How do you share the workload? as in do you all do a bit of every thing or have you got your own areas that you concentrate on?

Where in the writing process does all the glitching and edits happen? as in, do you do them once the whole tune in arranged or do you do them ealier? and how do you get your heads round those mental breakdown/buildups?


cheers,

Steve
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Post by LuQas » Mon Dec 01, 2008 10:06 am

Hey FTL :lurve:

What are you using to make those tearing psy riffs? Like the lead in Music is My Weapon or the Lovestick rmx – Something I’ve tried to emulate with no success. How are you controlling the filter cutoff – lfo/automation/envelope, etc? I just can’t seem to get enough ‘rip’ in my leads.

What’s your distortion plug of choice?
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Post by benzodiazapine » Mon Dec 01, 2008 10:57 am

pc or mac?
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Post by Earnest » Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:39 am

Again absolutely lovin your sound lads, proper fresh and upfront sounding.

So what Id love to know is - Which effects are usually found on your Drum tracks then on your Bass tracks?
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Post by _ _ _ » Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:47 am

fartooloud wrote:
Effectrix
that looks sick :bo:

http://www.sugar-bytes.com/content/prod ... hp?lang=en#
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Post by LuQas » Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:51 am

*!? wrote:
fartooloud wrote:
Effectrix
that looks sick :bo:

http://www.sugar-bytes.com/content/prod ... hp?lang=en#
It's wicked - have been using it loads on a recent collab project :bo:
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Post by fartooloud » Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:25 pm

Ali Baba wrote:What FX do you use?
That's a bit of a broad question! it really depends on the tune...
Ali Baba wrote:Do you Mix/Master your own stuff? Who does if not?
Mix, yes. Mastering is up to the label but most of our stuff has gone to Heathmans (RIP) in the past...
Ali Baba wrote:When writing where do you start? (ie beats,bass)
Usually by getting a basic drum groove together, followed by the bass - that's the foundation of any dance record so it makes sense to start there
Ali Baba wrote:How long do you usually take to write a tune?
2-3 weeks
Ali Baba wrote:What hardware are you runnning? (ie pc spec, controllers etc)
Oli's got a quad core PC, I've just got a Macbook Pro. We've both got novation remote SL controllers and KRK VXT8 monitors, plus a few other bits and pieces

-Dom
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Post by fartooloud » Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:30 pm

Coyote wrote:morning,

Thanks for doing this. Big fan of your music by the way

Just a couple of questions,

How do you share the workload? as in do you all do a bit of every thing or have you got your own areas that you concentrate on?

Where in the writing process does all the glitching and edits happen? as in, do you do them once the whole tune in arranged or do you do them ealier? and how do you get your heads round those mental breakdown/buildups?


cheers,

Steve
We've each got our own sound so a tune will sound a bit different depending on who comes up with the initial idea, but we don't each stick to specific areas no

Glitches etc are done whenever really - having a good-sounding mix of the tune whilst writing helps, because sections of it can be bounced for editing, sampling etc. As for the last bit I'll let Oli answer that, as he's the true master of the mental buildup!

-Dom
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Post by Ali Baba » Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:35 pm

fartooloud wrote:
Ali Baba wrote:What FX do you use?
That's a bit of a broad question! it really depends on the tune...
Ali Baba wrote:Do you Mix/Master your own stuff? Who does if not?
Mix, yes. Mastering is up to the label but most of our stuff has gone to Heathmans (RIP) in the past...
Ali Baba wrote:When writing where do you start? (ie beats,bass)
Usually by getting a basic drum groove together, followed by the bass - that's the foundation of any dance record so it makes sense to start there
Ali Baba wrote:How long do you usually take to write a tune?
2-3 weeks
Ali Baba wrote:What hardware are you runnning? (ie pc spec, controllers etc)
Oli's got a quad core PC, I've just got a Macbook Pro. We've both got novation remote SL controllers and KRK VXT8 monitors, plus a few other bits and pieces

-Dom
Cheers for the responses :)
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Post by fartooloud » Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:42 pm

LuQas wrote:Hey FTL :lurve:

What are you using to make those tearing psy riffs? Like the lead in Music is My Weapon or the Lovestick rmx – Something I’ve tried to emulate with no success. How are you controlling the filter cutoff – lfo/automation/envelope, etc? I just can’t seem to get enough ‘rip’ in my leads.

What’s your distortion plug of choice?
It really depends - a lot of that kind of stuff comes form using Kontakt (MIMW leads were all Kontakt IIRC), putting in some really raw-sounding waveform and then using kontakt's filters and various VST plugins to mould the sound. Kontakt is great for this because it gives you lots of control over the modulation. The cutoff I mostly control with the mod wheel, recording stuff in live and then editing (lots of editing!) to get all the sweeps and harmonics right. The leads in Lovestick are actually a combination of Kontact, Massive and FM8 used in a "question answer" sort of arrangement - so the lead line is actually snaking through lots of different parts instead of being on one track. The synths are generally EQed to bring out the "bite" and remove the unwanted frequencies (a HPF is always a good idea here) and heavily compressed so that they stay constant in level in spite of the filtering.

My favourite distortion plugin used to be the Quadrafuzz included with Cubase, but they've ditched it in SX4 which I wasn't happy about...but now I've found Ohmicide so it's all good! Guitar Rig's also wicked and the amp simulator built into Cubase 4 isn't bad either.

-Dom
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Post by fartooloud » Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:45 pm

benzodiazapine wrote:pc or mac?
Historically PC but I've just got a Macbook Pro

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Post by LuQas » Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:46 pm

Wicked - thanks a million.

Sounds like you really have to work to get them sounding that good - I knew there wouldn't be an easy answer :lol:
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Post by fartooloud » Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:47 pm

Earnest wrote:Again absolutely lovin your sound lads, proper fresh and upfront sounding.

So what Id love to know is - Which effects are usually found on your Drum tracks then on your Bass tracks?
Drums - EQ, compression maybe. Sometimes reverb on some tracks, sometimes distortion.

Bass - pretty much the same with the addition of a compressor sidechained from the kick drum or a dedicated sidechain kick track
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Post by findog » Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:01 pm

much love doods
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Post by 4444 » Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:12 pm

I think the closing date needs more work.
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