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Post by alex_virr » Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:10 pm

nec wrote: The brain starts loosing directonality below 300Hz, so you can't love hearing low frequencies panning, that much, since your brain cant perceive that effect and before you say again that you are special and you can hear it, it is scientifically proven. Maybe you like the different nodes of standing low frequency waves the speakers excite if they are in an assymetrical enviroment (which is the case with most places), that you can perceive, but not the former.
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Post by SubtleGestures » Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:29 pm

"The brain starts loosing directonality below 300Hz, so you can't love hearing low frequencies panning, that much, since your brain cant perceive that effect and before you say again that you are special and you can hear it, it is scientifically proven."


K, I'll be respectful and not laugh at that statement, not you, the science. I've heard about this, never done my own research though.

...... I have to disagree dude, seriously. I do a LOT of my mixdown work in my headphones (I know, also another big no no, but I use my speakers for reference, I know: it's the exact flip-flop), but I can hear plenty of panning in the low end in my headphones.

I just finished a tune that uses all kinds of low frequency spatial panning fx scattered here and there. My breakdown has a drumloop that was run through Spectron along w/some other stuff - and it's got F. like 60 HZ panning here/there, 80 going here/there, 100 going here/there, etc.

What lil I've read about it - the science makes sense, but my ears can hear that stuff, so ???? to that.

I'm not trying to argue at all - just being honest.
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Post by plazadefunk » Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:35 pm

SubtleGestures wrote:"
I just finished a tune that uses all kinds of low frequency spatial panning fx scattered here and there. My breakdown has a drumloop that was run through Spectron along w/some other stuff - and it's got F. like 60 HZ panning here/there, 80 going here/there, 100 going here/there, etc.

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can we hear that then?
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Post by nectarios » Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:35 pm

SubtleGestures wrote:but I can hear plenty of panning in the low end in my headphones.

I just finished a tune that uses all kinds of low frequency spatial panning fx scattered here and there. My breakdown has a drumloop that was run through Spectron along w/some other stuff - and it's got F. like 60 HZ panning here/there, 80 going here/there, 100 going here/there, etc.

What lil I've read about it - the science makes sense, but my ears can hear that stuff, so ???? to that.
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That's because sound pressure from one headphone can't spill outside and get to your other ear, you idiotic inbred!
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Post by Walter Odington » Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:38 pm

I have to say I do question the out right non perception of directionality below 300Hz. However, there is definately LESS directionality the lower you go, and vinyl is going to be a problem I understand.


Now post that tune up!
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Post by SubtleGestures » Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:39 pm

damn that does make sense


I'm gonna do a test on the speaks today and I'll get back to you




"idiotic" hunh


That's one thing you knew that I didn't. no biggy
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Post by nectarios » Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:43 pm

Walter Odington wrote:I have to say I do question the out right non perception of directionality below 300Hz. However, there is definately LESS directionality the lower you go
300Hz is not a hard threshhold where all directionality drops off immediately, it is a derived value from lots and lots of tests. But like you said, the lower you go, the more you lose directionality.
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Post by nectarios » Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:46 pm

SubtleGestures wrote:
"idiotic" hunh


That's one thing you knew that I didn't. no biggy
It is called common sense, something you obviously lack.
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Post by shapshankly » Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:50 pm

i want to hear this tune as well please!
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Post by SubtleGestures » Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:51 pm

It doesn't need your feedback.
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Post by nectarios » Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:54 pm

Put up or lick'em!
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Post by SubtleGestures » Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:55 pm

like I sad, it doesn't need any of y'alls feedback


I've got friends for that.

thks though
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Post by nectarios » Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:58 pm

SubtleGestures wrote:like I sad, it doesn't need any of y'alls feedback


I've got friends for that.

thks though
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Post by shapshankly » Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:10 pm

we don't need you being a cunt, but you still post up your ramblings.

just let us hear one tune, we may be surprised!
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Post by Walter Odington » Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:24 pm

we have heard some before actually...


I'm so tired of all this arguing!
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Post by foxington » Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:55 pm

innit :(
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Post by alex_virr » Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:10 pm

JoeBot wrote::yawn:
sad thing is this was a good thread :cry:
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Post by innocent bystander » Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:10 pm

if making dance music for dance clubs, theres no problem as far as i'm concerned tailoring it so it sounds good on dancefloors.

my stuff has stereo panning all over the shop, i just check to see if it phases in mono, if it does, i'll tweak it till it dont.

job done.

(then i pass it to the master type peesp who cry and ask me what they did to deserve being given this stuff to master...)
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Post by shapshankly » Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:16 pm

whoops hijacked my own thread to be offensive. sorry all

been trying to get this sidechain malarky going on in cubase, but it seems that it doesn't like it -> see other thread!

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