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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:04 am 
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no lol
psy breakes is psy breaks

whoever wroet that drivel has it wrong and has tried to assimilate electrobreaks / prog breaks into psybreaks lol.

uh huh mate, not having that

i can tell you what is and what isnt psybreaks.

post it and ill tell you if its psybreaks

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:04 pm 
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no lol
psy breakes is psy breaks

whoever wroet that drivel has it wrong and has tried to assimilate electrobreaks / prog breaks into psybreaks lol.

uh huh mate, not having that

i can tell you what is and what isnt psybreaks.

post it and ill tell you if its psybreaks


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How about I ignore you, and you go fuck yourself with the wide end of a rake?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:08 pm 
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Psywonk :lol:

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I couldn't be arsed digging up the thread on here where Ben said it, so I'll c'n'p from globalpsybreaks. Do you doubt that Ben knows what he's talking about?

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Psybreaks covers a very wide range and means different things to different people. Four main types:

1)Made by psytrance producers and basically sounds like psytrance with a breakbeat, typically in the 140s bpm. Mood Deluxe is the classic example, or Scorb "Ipso Fvcto"

2)Chunky electrobreaks/electrohouse which borrows production ideas and squizzy noises from psytrance: Far Too Loud, most Broken Robot releases, Kiwa, Hedflux, some Robosapiens.

3)Progressive psybreaks: Nuskoolbreaks/techfunk/progressive-breaks origins, epic evolving builds and breakdowns inducing hypnotic trance states. Effortless trippiness. This went on quietly for years before anyone thought to call it psybreaks. Chi Recordings is quite a goldmine for it, Sinister Recordings were the masters (now deceased), other Robosapiens, Plastic Shell, Amb, Skein, Omar Santana, also although I wouldn't call BETA or BSD psybreaks exactly, they often have the right sensibilities to fit in this category.

4)Glitchy electrobreaks/dark electro: from Espion and Marc Adamo at the more accessible end, via Butter Party and Kilowatts, to Lawgiverz, Jnr Hacksaw, Tipper, Skeetaz, SOTEG, Mr Rogers... Addictech is the place to shop for glitch and what I like to call "psywonk", tho it often descends into a game of Dodge The Dubstep....


Who's Ben?

I understand there are different styles within this basically tiny microcosm of a genre, I'm just questioning the need to pigeon hole them at all, and perhaps the pernicious nature of doing so. On top of that your quoted post is basically putting a whole bunch of producers who definitely don't make psy breaks into the psy breaks category which seems rather counter productive.

For example I can say that I like 48K because he doesn't resort to hackneyed squelchy synths that sound like every other psy trance tune but instead manipulates his basslines in a way which is genuinely interesting and in contrast to most 'psychedelic' music where the bass is anything but.

Hedflux moving into deeper and more minimal sub bass powered tech territory is also very welcome imo.

But I'm talking about actual sounds, not some rather general nonsense about 'effortless trippiness' :)

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Who's Ben?

I understand there are different styles within this basically tiny microcosm of a genre, I'm just questioning the need to pigeon hole them at all, and perhaps the pernicious nature of doing so. On top of that your quoted post is basically putting a whole of producers who definitely don't make psy breaks into the psy breaks category which seems rather counter productive.

For example I can say that I like 48K because he doesn't resort to hackneyed squelchy synths that sound like every other psy trance tune but instead manipulates his basslines in a way which is genuinely interesting and in contrast to most 'psychedlic' music where the bass is anything but.

Hedflux moving into deeper and more minimal sub bass powered tech territory is also very welcome imo.

But I'm talking about actual sounds, not some rather general nonsense about 'effortless trippiness' :)


Ben Quextal.

And you're the one pigeonholing it into a tiny sub-genre, by only referring to recent tech-funk styles. *shrugs* You win, though, I know nothing.

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psybreaks is now skull fucking the rotten cadaver left behind by the tragedy of tech funk,

tech funk basically ramraided the foul corpse which tearout deemed unfuckworthy

the dismal results are all too predictable and personally id rather stick my dick in a coffee grinder

talk about sloppy seconds :violin:

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psybreaks is now skull fucking the rotten cadaver left behind by the tragedy of tech funk,

tech funk basically ramraided the foul corpse which tearout deemed unfuckworthy

the dismal results are all too predictable and personally id rather stick my dick in a coffee grinder

talk about sloppy seconds :violin:


I dunno. Sometimes it sounds like this:


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ellgief lets keep this amongst ourselves, dont tell anyone right? but

there are some some psybreaks tunes i actually like

give trance a chance

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Raid the Chi back-catalogue.

Also, what Ben said. I'm an option 4 man myself.

I played Kilowatts - "Teknopera pt2" at a squat party once. It was very bo. :D

http://shop.kilowattsmusic.com/track/teknopera-part-2

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give trance a chance


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Wow I can't believe that post is still being used to educate n00bz ;)

Bear in mind I wrote it a loooong time ago (must have been before Far Too Loud split), when psybreaks wasn't really an established subgenre and people were using the term to mean different things, which I attempted to enumerate and describe in that post.

Things have moved on a bit since then... But one thing hasn't changed, I'm still pushing psybreaks (however you care to define it ;) ) on my NSB show... :shamelessplug: Archives here http://quextal.com ;)

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Wow I can't believe that post is still being used to educate n00bz ;)

Bear in mind I wrote it a loooong time ago (must have been before Far Too Loud split), when psybreaks wasn't really an established subgenre and people were using the term to mean different things, which I attempted to enumerate and describe in that post.

Things have moved on a bit since then... But one thing hasn't changed, I'm still pushing psybreaks (however you care to define it ;) ) on my NSB show... :shamelessplug: Archives here http://quextal.com ;)


I still use the term to mean "breaks-with-trippy-elements". Mostly because of a Dead Kennedys' song:

"If the music's got boring
It's because of the people
Who want everyone to sound the same
Who drive the bright people
Out of our so-called scene
'Til all that's left is just a meaningless fad" - Chickenshit Conformist

Is psybreaks an established subgenre, now? Damn :(

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psybreaks is well established now
check the beatport top 10

tam is also lying - he doenst like psy breaks

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Go to soundcloud, do a search for 'psybreaks' and you'll discover loads of new artists.. you may have to sift through a fair bit of drivel but there's loads of fresh new stuff on there..

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